Buffalo Sabres

Ice Hockey NHL Scotiabank Saddledome Mon 8 Dec 21:00

Calgary Flames

  1. Prediction
  2. SGP Picks
  3. Correct Score
  4. Odds
  5. Team Stats
  6. Player Stats
  7. Player Props
  8. Team News
  9. Lineups
  10. Injuries
  11. Roster
  12. Standings

NHL Betting Preview: Sabres vs Flames

The Buffalo Sabres square off against the Calgary Flames at Scotiabank Saddledome, with face-off scheduled for 21:00 on Monday, December 8.

Why We’re Expecting Flames to Win

It’s time to side with the Flames to secure a victory over the Sabres. They should have the upper hand and the -111 for our Moneyline prediction looks a great price.

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Flames 6-2 Victory in Previous H2H Meeting

Buffalo Sabres have been defeated in back-to-back games. On the road, they recently suffered a 4-1 loss against Winnipeg Jets at Canada Life Centre. Sabres racked up 35 shots but only scored one goal in the process. It was Jason Zucker who found the net.

Calgary Flames were winners last time out. Their 2-0 victory against Utah Mammoth at Scotiabank Saddledome was their third straight home triumph. Yegor Sharangovich and Connor Zary scored one goal each. Dustin Wolf got a shutout making 27 saves.

Head-to-Head Statistics

The Flames have claimed back-to-back victories over the Sabres. At Scotiabank Saddledome they won 5-2 before winning 6-2 at KeyBank Center. The past 10 clashes between these teams have seen six Flames wins.

Starting Goalies

Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 11-7-2 2.7 .902 0
23/24 27-22-4 2.57 .910 5
Dustin Wolf (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 16-21-3 3 .895 2
23/24 7-7-1 3.16 .893 0
Buffalo Sabres – Last 10 Games

5 wins and 5 losses, averaging 3.2 goals from 31.1 shots on goal, with a 18.2% powerplay efficiency. The Sabres have given up 3.2 goals from 26.9 shots, averaging 2.7 penalties with a penalty-killing efficiency of 85.2%.

Jason Zucker is the top points scorer with 9 points, 5 goals and 4 assists, with Alex Tuch racking up 8 points, 2 goals and 6 assists, over the last 10 games. Goalie Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen have a 2.22 goal against average with a .906 save percentage.

Calgary Flames – Last 10 Games

The Flames have 6 wins, 3 losses and 1 overtime loss, averaging 2.8 goals from 27.4 shots on goal, with a 12.5% powerplay efficiency. They have conceded 2.6 goals from 27.7 shots, averaging 4.7 penalties per game with a penalty-killing efficiency of 97.9%.

The top points scorer is Rasmus Andersson with 13 points, 3 goals and 10 assists, while Nazem Kadri is next in line after having 12 points, 1 goal and 11 assists. Goalie Devin Cooley have a 2.46 GAA with a .908 SV%.

Buffalo Sabres vs Calgary Flames Prediction & Picks

Your complete Buffalo Sabres vs Calgary Flames betting guide is here, including our go-to match prediction, scoreline call, standout prop selections and a customized bet builder.

Game Prediction

We’re keeping our pick nice and simple by heading to the Moneyline. Take the -111 that Calgary Flames are able to secure a victory in this NHL encounter.

It’s important to know which players are unavailable for the upcoming action along with the current form of each NHL franchise. If you're after stats, you're in the right place because they form the foundation of our hockey picks.

Key Sabres vs Flames stats:

  • Flames have won 4 of their last 5 games at home.
  • Flames have won 6 of their last 10 games.
  • Flames have won 3 consecutive games at home.
  • Sabres have lost 8 of their last 10 games on the road.
  • Sabres have lost 15 of their last 20 games on the road.
  • Sabres have lost their last 2 games.
  • Flames have won the last 2 games between these teams.

Flames Moneyline Probability

The best betting sites are estimating that there is a 52.6% likelihood of this pick winning. However, our analysts have this number between 55-60% based on their in-depth research. It’s why we think it’s worth placing this hockey wager.

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Player Prop Picks

Top Pick: Jason Zucker Over 1.5 Shots -164 BetMGM logo

Jason Zucker (Sabres) has totaled Over 1.5 shots on goal in 3 straight games. If you agree with our verdict that he can cover the line again, then you can land odds of -164 that this happens.

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Same Game Parlay Picks

Moneyline Flames
To Score Matt Coronato
Shots on Goal Jason Zucker Over 1.5

We’ve got a same game parlay with three options: the Flames on the moneyline, Matt Coronato (Flames) to be among the scorers and Jason Zucker (Sabres) to have Over 1.5 shots.

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Buffalo Sabres vs Calgary Flames Odds

The odds and lines below are updated regularly and may differ from the prices shown in our picks, which are captured at the time of publication.

Moneyline Odds Suggest a Close Contest

The sportsbooks are expecting a tight game. They can’t split Calgary Flames and Buffalo Sabres according to the latest Moneyline betting odds. Both teams can be backed at -110 and it’s a case of working out the most likely winner.

There is a puck line of 1.5 and total goals has a line of 6.5. A Totals bet relates to the number of goals that will be scored overall. If you want to back Over 6.5, it’s +108.

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Player Props & Micro Betting

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Team Stats

Latest regular season and playoff games stats.

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres Stats
Calgary Flames logo Calgary Flames Stats
Moneyline
  • 5 wins and 5 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 2 wins and 8 defeats in the last 10 games on the road
Moneyline
  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 home games
Puck Line
Puck Line
Total Goals
Total Goals
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team News
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
89 Alex Tuch 28 18.25 9 15 24 1
72 Tage Thompson 28 18.58 12 10 22 -10
91 Josh Doan 28 15.53 8 11 19 -5
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
91 Nazem Kadri 30 19.79 5 18 23 -11
4 Rasmus Andersson 30 24.17 6 14 20 1
27 Matt Coronato 29 16.81 9 7 16 -16

Injuries & Suspensions

Buffalo Sabres Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Justin Danforth
Injured
Michael Kesselring
Injured
Jiri Kulich
Unavailable

Calgary Flames Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Samuel Honzek
Injured
Zayne Parekh
Injured
Jake Bean
Injured
Martin Pospisil
Injured

Starting Lineups

Calgary Flames logo Calgary Flames

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

32
Dustin Wolf
7
Kevin Bahl
4
Rasmus Andersson
10
Jonathan Huberdeau
16
Morgan Frost
27
Matt Coronato
89
Alex Tuch
72
Tage Thompson
12
Jordan Greenway
26
Rasmus Dahlin
23
Mattias Samuelsson
1
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Calgary Flames logo Calgary Flames

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

32
Dustin Wolf
37
Yan Kuznetsov
52
MacKenzie Weegar
17
Yegor Sharangovich
91
Nazem Kadri
86
Joel Farabee
91
Josh Doan
9
Josh Norris
6
Zach Benson
21
Conor Timmins
4
Bowen Byram
1
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Calgary Flames logo Calgary Flames

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

32
Dustin Wolf
44
Joel Hanley
94
Brayden Pachal
47
Connor Zary
11
Mikael Backlund
20
Blake Coleman
22
Jack Quinn
71
Ryan McLeod
17
Jason Zucker
78
Jacob Bryson
25
Owen Power
1
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Calgary Flames logo Calgary Flames

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

32
Dustin Wolf
70
Ryan Lomberg
18
John Beecher
43
Adam Klapka
48
Tyson Kozak
19
Peyton Krebs
29
Beck Malenstyn
1
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Previous Buffalo Sabres Lineups

05 Dec NHL
Sabres 1-4 Jets
03 Dec NHL
Sabres 2-5 Flyers
01 Dec NHL
Jets 1-5 Sabres
29 Nov NHL
Sabres 3-2 Wild
28 Nov NHL
Devils 5-0 Sabres
26 Nov NHL
Sabres 2-4 Penguins
23 Nov NHL
Hurricanes 1-4 Sabres
21 Nov NHL
Blackhawks 3-9 Sabres
19 Nov NHL
Flames 6-2 Sabres
17 Nov NHL
Oilers 1-5 Sabres

Previous Calgary Flames Lineups

06 Dec NHL
Mammoth 0-2 Flames
04 Dec NHL
Wild 1-4 Flames
02 Dec NHL
Flames 1-5 Predators
30 Nov NHL
Flames 0-1 Hurricanes
28 Nov NHL
Flames 5-3 Panthers
26 Nov NHL
Flames 1-5 Lightning
23 Nov NHL
Flames 5-2 Canucks
22 Nov NHL
Stars 2-3 Flames
19 Nov NHL
Flames 6-2 Sabres
18 Nov NHL
Flames 2-5 Blackhawks
NHL Standings Select Season
Metropolitan GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Carolina 57 36 15 6 78 0.684 26 32 197 163 34 21-8-2 15-7-4 4-3 8-2 3W
2 Pittsburgh 56 29 15 12 70 0.625 25 28 192 169 23 13-8-7 16-7-5 1-7 7-3 1W
3 NY Islanders 58 32 21 5 69 0.595 22 28 169 162 7 16-10-2 16-11-3 4-5 6-4 2W
4 Columbus 56 29 20 7 65 0.58 20 24 179 177 2 15-8-4 14-12-3 5-1 9-1 7W
5 Washington 59 29 23 7 65 0.551 24 28 189 177 12 17-10-3 12-13-4 1-5 5-5 1W
6 Philadelphia 56 25 20 11 61 0.545 18 20 167 180 -13 13-9-7 12-11-4 5-3 3-7 1L
7 New Jersey 57 28 27 2 58 0.509 18 25 146 175 -29 13-12-2 15-15-0 3-0 4-6 3L
8 NY Rangers 57 22 29 6 50 0.439 14 20 151 180 -29 6-15-4 16-14-2 2-0 2-8 4L
East Atlantic GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Tampa Bay 55 37 14 4 78 0.709 28 33 199 140 59 18-9-0 19-5-4 4-2 8-2 5W
2 Montreal 57 32 17 8 72 0.632 21 30 199 187 12 16-11-1 16-6-7 2-4 6-4 1W
3 Detroit 58 33 19 6 72 0.621 23 31 174 175 -1 18-10-2 15-9-4 2-3 5-5 1L
4 Buffalo 57 32 19 6 70 0.614 26 29 195 176 19 17-8-3 15-11-3 3-0 6-4 2L
5 Boston 57 32 20 5 69 0.605 24 30 195 182 13 21-8-1 11-12-4 2-3 6-4 2L
6 Ottawa 57 28 22 7 63 0.553 22 25 191 184 7 14-10-4 14-12-3 3-0 6-4 1W
7 Toronto 57 27 21 9 63 0.553 19 26 188 194 -6 16-9-6 11-12-3 1-1 4-6 3W
8 Florida 57 29 25 3 61 0.535 23 25 174 191 -17 15-13-3 14-12-0 4-1 4-6 1L
East Central GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 55 37 9 9 83 0.755 34 36 212 138 74 21-3-4 16-6-5 1-5 4-6 1W
2 Minnesota 58 34 14 10 78 0.672 21 30 196 169 27 17-6-7 17-8-3 4-3 8-2 5W
3 Dallas 57 34 14 9 77 0.675 28 30 193 160 33 16-7-3 18-7-6 4-3 7-3 6W
4 Utah 57 30 23 4 64 0.561 23 30 183 157 26 17-8-2 13-15-2 0-0 7-3 2W
5 Nashville 57 26 24 7 59 0.518 19 23 169 198 -29 15-12-3 11-12-4 3-0 3-7 2L
6 Chicago 57 22 26 9 53 0.465 17 19 154 185 -31 12-14-5 10-12-4 3-5 3-7 1L
7 Winnipeg 56 22 26 8 52 0.464 20 21 160 175 -15 12-11-5 10-15-3 1-2 3-7 2L
8 St Louis 57 20 28 9 49 0.43 19 19 147 203 -56 13-11-6 7-17-3 1-3 2-8 3L
West Pacific GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Vegas 56 26 16 14 66 0.589 19 25 187 178 9 13-8-7 13-8-7 1-6 3-7 1W
2 Edmonton 58 28 22 8 64 0.552 21 28 198 194 4 15-10-4 13-12-4 0-3 5-5 3L
3 Seattle 56 27 20 9 63 0.563 21 26 162 165 -3 14-9-5 13-11-4 1-4 6-4 1W
4 Anaheim 56 30 23 3 63 0.563 18 24 185 195 -10 17-8-1 13-15-2 6-0 8-2 2W
5 LA Kings 55 23 18 14 60 0.545 14 19 145 157 -12 8-11-7 15-7-7 4-6 4-6 2L
6 San Jose 55 27 24 4 58 0.527 16 25 171 193 -22 14-9-3 13-15-1 2-1 4-6 4L
7 Calgary 56 23 27 6 52 0.464 19 21 142 169 -27 15-10-4 8-17-2 2-2 4-6 1W
8 Vancouver 57 18 33 6 42 0.368 12 14 149 210 -61 6-17-4 12-16-2 4-2 2-8 3L
Eastern GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Tampa Bay 55 37 14 4 78 0.709 28 33 199 140 59 18-9-0 19-5-4 4-2 8-2 5W
2 Carolina 57 36 15 6 78 0.684 26 32 197 163 34 21-8-2 15-7-4 4-3 8-2 3W
3 Montreal 57 32 17 8 72 0.632 21 30 199 187 12 16-11-1 16-6-7 2-4 6-4 1W
4 Detroit 58 33 19 6 72 0.621 23 31 174 175 -1 18-10-2 15-9-4 2-3 5-5 1L
5 Pittsburgh 56 29 15 12 70 0.625 25 28 192 169 23 13-8-7 16-7-5 1-7 7-3 1W
6 Buffalo 57 32 19 6 70 0.614 26 29 195 176 19 17-8-3 15-11-3 3-0 6-4 2L
7 Boston 57 32 20 5 69 0.605 24 30 195 182 13 21-8-1 11-12-4 2-3 6-4 2L
8 NY Islanders 58 32 21 5 69 0.595 22 28 169 162 7 16-10-2 16-11-3 4-5 6-4 2W
9 Columbus 56 29 20 7 65 0.58 20 24 179 177 2 15-8-4 14-12-3 5-1 9-1 7W
10 Washington 59 29 23 7 65 0.551 24 28 189 177 12 17-10-3 12-13-4 1-5 5-5 1W
11 Ottawa 57 28 22 7 63 0.553 22 25 191 184 7 14-10-4 14-12-3 3-0 6-4 1W
12 Toronto 57 27 21 9 63 0.553 19 26 188 194 -6 16-9-6 11-12-3 1-1 4-6 3W
13 Philadelphia 56 25 20 11 61 0.545 18 20 167 180 -13 13-9-7 12-11-4 5-3 3-7 1L
14 Florida 57 29 25 3 61 0.535 23 25 174 191 -17 15-13-3 14-12-0 4-1 4-6 1L
15 New Jersey 57 28 27 2 58 0.509 18 25 146 175 -29 13-12-2 15-15-0 3-0 4-6 3L
16 NY Rangers 57 22 29 6 50 0.439 14 20 151 180 -29 6-15-4 16-14-2 2-0 2-8 4L
Western GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 55 37 9 9 83 0.755 34 36 212 138 74 21-3-4 16-6-5 1-5 4-6 1W
2 Minnesota 58 34 14 10 78 0.672 21 30 196 169 27 17-6-7 17-8-3 4-3 8-2 5W
3 Dallas 57 34 14 9 77 0.675 28 30 193 160 33 16-7-3 18-7-6 4-3 7-3 6W
4 Vegas 56 26 16 14 66 0.589 19 25 187 178 9 13-8-7 13-8-7 1-6 3-7 1W
5 Utah 57 30 23 4 64 0.561 23 30 183 157 26 17-8-2 13-15-2 0-0 7-3 2W
6 Edmonton 58 28 22 8 64 0.552 21 28 198 194 4 15-10-4 13-12-4 0-3 5-5 3L
7 Seattle 56 27 20 9 63 0.563 21 26 162 165 -3 14-9-5 13-11-4 1-4 6-4 1W
8 Anaheim 56 30 23 3 63 0.563 18 24 185 195 -10 17-8-1 13-15-2 6-0 8-2 2W
9 LA Kings 55 23 18 14 60 0.545 14 19 145 157 -12 8-11-7 15-7-7 4-6 4-6 2L
10 Nashville 57 26 24 7 59 0.518 19 23 169 198 -29 15-12-3 11-12-4 3-0 3-7 2L
11 San Jose 55 27 24 4 58 0.527 16 25 171 193 -22 14-9-3 13-15-1 2-1 4-6 4L
12 Chicago 57 22 26 9 53 0.465 17 19 154 185 -31 12-14-5 10-12-4 3-5 3-7 1L
13 Winnipeg 56 22 26 8 52 0.464 20 21 160 175 -15 12-11-5 10-15-3 1-2 3-7 2L
14 Calgary 56 23 27 6 52 0.464 19 21 142 169 -27 15-10-4 8-17-2 2-2 4-6 1W
15 St Louis 57 20 28 9 49 0.43 19 19 147 203 -56 13-11-6 7-17-3 1-3 2-8 3L
16 Vancouver 57 18 33 6 42 0.368 12 14 149 210 -61 6-17-4 12-16-2 4-2 2-8 3L
GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 55 37 9 9 83 0.755 34 36 212 138 74 21-3-4 16-6-5 1-5 4-6 1W
2 Tampa Bay 55 37 14 4 78 0.709 28 33 199 140 59 18-9-0 19-5-4 4-2 8-2 5W
3 Carolina 57 36 15 6 78 0.684 26 32 197 163 34 21-8-2 15-7-4 4-3 8-2 3W
4 Minnesota 58 34 14 10 78 0.672 21 30 196 169 27 17-6-7 17-8-3 4-3 8-2 5W
5 Dallas 57 34 14 9 77 0.675 28 30 193 160 33 16-7-3 18-7-6 4-3 7-3 6W
6 Montreal 57 32 17 8 72 0.632 21 30 199 187 12 16-11-1 16-6-7 2-4 6-4 1W
7 Detroit 58 33 19 6 72 0.621 23 31 174 175 -1 18-10-2 15-9-4 2-3 5-5 1L
8 Pittsburgh 56 29 15 12 70 0.625 25 28 192 169 23 13-8-7 16-7-5 1-7 7-3 1W
9 Buffalo 57 32 19 6 70 0.614 26 29 195 176 19 17-8-3 15-11-3 3-0 6-4 2L
10 Boston 57 32 20 5 69 0.605 24 30 195 182 13 21-8-1 11-12-4 2-3 6-4 2L
11 NY Islanders 58 32 21 5 69 0.595 22 28 169 162 7 16-10-2 16-11-3 4-5 6-4 2W
12 Vegas 56 26 16 14 66 0.589 19 25 187 178 9 13-8-7 13-8-7 1-6 3-7 1W
13 Columbus 56 29 20 7 65 0.58 20 24 179 177 2 15-8-4 14-12-3 5-1 9-1 7W
14 Washington 59 29 23 7 65 0.551 24 28 189 177 12 17-10-3 12-13-4 1-5 5-5 1W
15 Utah 57 30 23 4 64 0.561 23 30 183 157 26 17-8-2 13-15-2 0-0 7-3 2W
16 Edmonton 58 28 22 8 64 0.552 21 28 198 194 4 15-10-4 13-12-4 0-3 5-5 3L
17 Seattle 56 27 20 9 63 0.563 21 26 162 165 -3 14-9-5 13-11-4 1-4 6-4 1W
18 Anaheim 56 30 23 3 63 0.563 18 24 185 195 -10 17-8-1 13-15-2 6-0 8-2 2W
19 Ottawa 57 28 22 7 63 0.553 22 25 191 184 7 14-10-4 14-12-3 3-0 6-4 1W
20 Toronto 57 27 21 9 63 0.553 19 26 188 194 -6 16-9-6 11-12-3 1-1 4-6 3W
21 Philadelphia 56 25 20 11 61 0.545 18 20 167 180 -13 13-9-7 12-11-4 5-3 3-7 1L
22 Florida 57 29 25 3 61 0.535 23 25 174 191 -17 15-13-3 14-12-0 4-1 4-6 1L
23 LA Kings 55 23 18 14 60 0.545 14 19 145 157 -12 8-11-7 15-7-7 4-6 4-6 2L
24 Nashville 57 26 24 7 59 0.518 19 23 169 198 -29 15-12-3 11-12-4 3-0 3-7 2L
25 San Jose 55 27 24 4 58 0.527 16 25 171 193 -22 14-9-3 13-15-1 2-1 4-6 4L
26 New Jersey 57 28 27 2 58 0.509 18 25 146 175 -29 13-12-2 15-15-0 3-0 4-6 3L
27 Chicago 57 22 26 9 53 0.465 17 19 154 185 -31 12-14-5 10-12-4 3-5 3-7 1L
28 Winnipeg 56 22 26 8 52 0.464 20 21 160 175 -15 12-11-5 10-15-3 1-2 3-7 2L
29 Calgary 56 23 27 6 52 0.464 19 21 142 169 -27 15-10-4 8-17-2 2-2 4-6 1W
30 NY Rangers 57 22 29 6 50 0.439 14 20 151 180 -29 6-15-4 16-14-2 2-0 2-8 4L
31 St Louis 57 20 28 9 49 0.43 19 19 147 203 -56 13-11-6 7-17-3 1-3 2-8 3L
32 Vancouver 57 18 33 6 42 0.368 12 14 149 210 -61 6-17-4 12-16-2 4-2 2-8 3L