Buffalo Sabres

Ice Hockey NHL Canadian Tire Centre Tue 23 Dec 20:00

Ottawa Senators

  1. Prediction
  2. SGP Picks
  3. Correct Score
  4. Odds
  5. Team Stats
  6. Player Stats
  7. Player Props
  8. Team News
  9. Lineups
  10. Injuries
  11. Roster
  12. Standings

NHL Betting Preview: Sabres vs Senators

The Buffalo Sabres clash with the Ottawa Senators at Canadian Tire Centre, with face-off scheduled for 20:00 on Tuesday, December 23.

Find Out Why We’re Backing Sens

It’s time to side with the Senators to record a regulation time victory against the Sabres. They should have the upper hand and the +107 for our 3-Way Moneyline prediction looks a good price.

Sabres Have 8 Wins in Previous 10 H2H Clashes

Buffalo Sabres have won six on the spin, triumphing 3-1 in their previous game. This was on the road against New Jersey Devils at Prudential Center. Peyton Krebs, Josh Norris and Zach Benson scored one goal each. Goalie Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen had 17 saves (.944).

Ottawa Senators got a fourth straight win in their last game. It was a 6-2 road triumph at TD Garden when meeting Boston Bruins. Fabian Zetterlund recorded 3 points, including 2 goals and 1 assist.

Head-to-Head Statistics

The Sabres won the last encounter between the pair. Enjoying a 8-4 triumph when facing the Sens at KeyBank Center. The Sabres have racked up five straight victories over the Sens. On the head-to-head front, they have won 8 of the past 10.

Starting Goalies

Alex Lyon (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 18-8-3 2.7 .913 2
23/24 21-18-4 3.05 .904 2
Linus Ullmark (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 19-9-7 2.9 .883 1
23/24 22-10-5 2.57 .915 2
Buffalo Sabres – Last 10 Games

7 wins and 3 losses, averaging 3.2 goals from 27.5 shots on goal, with a 22.2% powerplay efficiency. The Sabres have given up 2.9 goals from 28.4 shots, averaging 3.9 penalties with a penalty-killing efficiency of 82.1%.

Rasmus Dahlin is the top points scorer with 12 points, 3 goals and 9 assists, with Tage Thompson recording 11 points, 6 goals and 5 assists, over the past 10 games. Goalie Alex Lyon have a 2.17 goal against average with a .924 save percentage.

Ottawa Senators – Last 10 Games

The Sens have 6 wins and 4 losses, averaging 3.8 goals from 32.6 shots on goal, with a 24.5% powerplay efficiency. They have been conceding 2.6 goals from 24.7 shots, averaging 4.2 penalties per game with a penalty-killing efficiency of 85.7%.

The top points scorer is Tim Stutzle with 15 points, 6 goals and 9 assists, while Drake Batherson is next in line after registering 14 points, 6 goals and 8 assists. Goalie Linus Ullmark have a 2.16 GAA with a .912 SV%, including one shutout.

Buffalo Sabres vs Ottawa Senators Prediction & Picks

Get the full betting picture for Buffalo Sabres vs Ottawa Senators, including our expert match prediction, likely scoreline, must-watch player props and a tailored bet builder ready to use.

Game Prediction

Our pick is that there will be a home win in this NHL clash. You can currently get +107 about a regulation time win which looks like great odds.

We track all injuries that could impact each franchise before making our hockey predictions. The form guide and latest stats also help the Sportsgambler.com team crunch the numbers ahead of the NHL action.

Key Sabres vs Senators stats:

  • Senators have won 4 consecutive games.
  • Senators have won 6 of their last 10 games.
  • Senators have won 11 of their last 20 games.
  • Sabres have lost 14 of their last 20 games on the road.

Sens 3-Way Moneyline Probability

According to the top sportsbooks, our pick has a 48.3% chance of winning. After careful examination, our analysts have this probability somewhere between 55-60%. The wager can be recommended for this precise reason.

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Our Game Prediction
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Player Prop Picks

Top Pick: Fabian Zetterlund Over 0.5 Assists +270 BetMGM logo

Fabian Zetterlund (Senators) has recorded at least one assist in 3 straight games. Using this stat, we can therefore back him at +270 when it comes to a Player Assists bet which looks like a value pick.

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Same Game Parlay Picks

3-Way Moneyline Senators
To Score Brady Tkachuk
Assists Fabian Zetterlund Over 0.5

Try out our same game parlay pick which starts with the Senators recording a win in 60 minutes. We’ve also gone for Brady Tkachuk (Senators) to find the net and Fabian Zetterlund (Senators) to get Over 0.5 assists.

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Correct Score Prediction

Buffalo Sabres vs Ottawa Senators Odds

The odds and lines below are updated regularly and may differ from the prices shown in our picks, which are captured at the time of publication.

Sens Likely to Win According to Latest Odds

With the sportsbooks giving them a 62% probability of winning this game, Ottawa Senators might be a popular parlay pick. That is reflected in their -161 Moneyline betting odds. At +132, Buffalo Sabres are regarded as having a lower probability of winning.

There is a puck line of 1.5 and total goals has a line of 6.5. Having a bet on Totals is one of the most popular hockey wagers. There’s an opportunity to bet Over 6.5 at +104.

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Player Props & Micro Betting

Prop betting is very popular, with bettors looking to wager on player props such as Blocked Shots, Powerplay Points, Shots on Goal and Assists. It’s a great way of betting on individual player performance and the gambling sites will provide lots of options.

Micro betting is something that’s really popular with bettors, with NHL fans essentially being able to bet in-game when it comes to team and player props. Sometimes these are lines where you can wager on Shots or Goals.

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Team Stats

Latest regular season and playoff games stats.

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres Stats
Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators Stats
Moneyline
  • 7 wins and 3 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 games on the road
Moneyline
  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 5 wins and 5 defeats in the last 10 home games
Puck Line
Puck Line
Total Goals
Total Goals
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team News
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
72 Tage Thompson 35 18.87 18 14 32 -12
89 Alex Tuch 34 18.64 11 18 29 4
26 Rasmus Dahlin 32 24.2 4 24 28 -6
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
18 Tim Stutzle 35 20.47 17 21 38 6
19 Drake Batherson 32 18.18 14 21 35 5
24 Dylan Cozens 35 17.56 11 16 27 -9

Injuries & Suspensions

Buffalo Sabres Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Jason Zucker
Injured
Tyson Kozak
Injured
Colten Ellis
Injured
Justin Danforth
Injured
Conor Timmins
Injured
Jiri Kulich
Unavailable

Ottawa Senators Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Lars Eller
Injured
Shane Pinto
Injured
Tyler Kleven
Injured

Starting Lineups

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

35
Linus Ullmark
85
Jake Sanderson
2
Artyom Zub
7
Brady Tkachuk
18
Tim Stutzle
20
Fabian Zetterlund
91
Josh Doan
72
Tage Thompson
19
Peyton Krebs
26
Rasmus Dahlin
23
Mattias Samuelsson
34
Alex Lyon

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

35
Linus Ullmark
72
Thomas Chabot
10
Jordan Spence
57
David Perron
24
Dylan Cozens
19
Drake Batherson
89
Alex Tuch
9
Josh Norris
86
Noah Oestlund
8
Michael Kesselring
25
Owen Power
34
Alex Lyon

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

35
Linus Ullmark
33
Nikolas Matinpalo
3
Nick Jensen
22
Michael Amadio
71
Ridly Greig
28
Claude Giroux
22
Jack Quinn
71
Ryan McLeod
6
Zach Benson
73
Zach Metsa
4
Bowen Byram
34
Alex Lyon

Ottawa Senators logo Ottawa Senators

Buffalo Sabres logo Buffalo Sabres

35
Linus Ullmark
23
Kurtis MacDermid
83
Stephen Halliday
21
Nick Cousins
29
Beck Malenstyn
44
Josh Dunne
12
Jordan Greenway
34
Alex Lyon

Previous Buffalo Sabres Lineups

21 Dec NHL
Sabres 3-1 Devils
20 Dec NHL
Islanders 2-3 Sabres
18 Dec NHL
Flyers 3-5 Sabres
14 Dec NHL
Sabres 3-1 Kraken
11 Dec NHL
Sabres 3-2 Canucks
09 Dec NHL
Sabres 4-3 Oilers
08 Dec NHL
Sabres 4-7 Flames
05 Dec NHL
Sabres 1-4 Jets
03 Dec NHL
Sabres 2-5 Flyers
01 Dec NHL
Jets 1-5 Sabres

Previous Ottawa Senators Lineups

21 Dec NHL
Senators 6-2 Bruins
20 Dec NHL
Blackhawks 4-6 Senators
18 Dec NHL
Penguins 0-4 Senators
15 Dec NHL
Senators 3-2 Jets
13 Dec NHL
Senators 2-3 Wild
11 Dec NHL
Senators 6-3 Blue Jackets
09 Dec NHL
Devils 4-3 Senators
06 Dec NHL
Blues 2-1 Senators
04 Dec NHL
Rangers 4-2 Senators
02 Dec NHL
Senators 5-2 Canadiens
NHL Standings Select Season
Metropolitan GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Carolina 65 41 18 6 88 0.677 30 36 230 190 40 24-9-2 17-9-4 5-3 7-3 1L
2 Pittsburgh 65 32 18 15 79 0.608 27 31 219 199 20 16-9-8 16-9-7 1-10 4-6 2L
3 NY Islanders 65 37 23 5 79 0.608 23 33 192 186 6 17-10-2 20-13-3 4-5 7-3 2W
4 Columbus 65 33 21 11 77 0.592 23 28 210 207 3 17-8-7 16-13-4 5-1 5-5 1L
5 Philadelphia 65 31 23 11 73 0.562 20 23 190 203 -13 15-11-7 16-12-4 8-3 6-4 2W
6 Washington 67 33 27 7 73 0.545 28 32 210 200 10 20-11-3 13-16-4 1-5 5-5 1W
7 New Jersey 65 32 31 2 66 0.508 21 28 170 197 -27 16-15-2 16-16-0 4-0 4-6 2L
8 NY Rangers 65 27 30 8 62 0.477 18 24 185 203 -18 9-15-6 18-15-2 3-0 5-5 3W
East Atlantic GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Buffalo 66 40 20 6 86 0.652 34 37 232 198 34 21-9-3 19-11-3 3-0 8-2 1L
2 Tampa Bay 64 40 20 4 84 0.656 31 36 229 178 51 20-11-0 20-9-4 4-2 4-6 1W
3 Montreal 64 36 18 10 82 0.641 25 34 228 212 16 18-11-2 18-7-8 2-5 6-4 3W
4 Detroit 66 36 23 7 79 0.598 25 34 193 198 -5 18-11-3 18-12-4 2-3 4-6 2L
5 Boston 65 36 23 6 78 0.6 27 34 216 205 11 25-9-1 11-14-5 2-3 4-6 1L
6 Ottawa 64 32 23 9 73 0.57 26 29 216 201 15 14-11-5 18-12-4 3-0 6-4 1L
7 Florida 65 33 29 3 69 0.531 26 29 197 214 -17 18-14-3 15-15-0 4-1 5-5 3W
8 Toronto 66 28 27 11 67 0.508 20 27 209 233 -24 17-11-7 11-16-4 1-3 2-8 1W
East Central GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 64 44 11 9 97 0.758 39 41 246 160 86 23-5-4 21-6-5 3-5 8-2 1W
2 Dallas 65 41 14 10 92 0.708 33 37 229 176 53 21-7-4 20-7-6 4-4 9-1 3W
3 Minnesota 66 38 16 12 88 0.667 25 34 222 188 34 19-7-8 19-9-4 4-5 6-4 1L
4 Utah 66 34 26 6 74 0.561 26 34 205 184 21 18-10-3 16-16-3 0-0 5-5 3L
5 Nashville 65 29 27 9 67 0.515 22 26 194 222 -28 17-13-3 12-14-6 3-1 3-7 1L
6 Winnipeg 64 26 28 10 62 0.484 21 25 182 199 -17 15-13-5 11-15-5 1-2 4-6 2L
7 St Louis 65 26 29 10 62 0.477 24 25 172 217 -45 14-12-7 12-17-3 1-3 6-4 1W
8 Chicago 65 25 29 11 61 0.469 18 22 175 209 -34 13-15-5 12-14-6 3-5 4-6 2W
West Pacific GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Anaheim 65 36 26 3 75 0.577 21 28 219 228 -9 22-10-1 14-16-2 8-0 7-3 1L
2 Vegas 66 30 22 14 74 0.561 22 29 216 209 7 15-10-7 15-12-7 1-6 4-6 1W
3 Edmonton 66 32 26 8 72 0.545 24 32 233 228 5 16-11-4 16-15-4 0-3 4-6 1L
4 San Jose 63 31 26 6 68 0.54 19 29 196 220 -24 17-10-5 14-16-1 2-1 4-6 1W
5 Seattle 64 29 26 9 67 0.523 23 28 180 195 -15 16-13-5 13-13-4 1-4 3-7 4L
6 LA Kings 64 26 23 15 67 0.523 16 22 169 192 -23 10-15-7 16-8-8 4-6 3-7 1L
7 Calgary 65 26 32 7 59 0.454 22 24 163 204 -41 16-12-4 10-20-3 2-3 4-6 1W
8 Vancouver 65 20 37 8 48 0.369 13 15 169 241 -72 7-20-5 13-17-3 5-2 2-8 1W
Eastern GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Carolina 65 41 18 6 88 0.677 30 36 230 190 40 24-9-2 17-9-4 5-3 7-3 1L
2 Buffalo 66 40 20 6 86 0.652 34 37 232 198 34 21-9-3 19-11-3 3-0 8-2 1L
3 Tampa Bay 64 40 20 4 84 0.656 31 36 229 178 51 20-11-0 20-9-4 4-2 4-6 1W
4 Montreal 64 36 18 10 82 0.641 25 34 228 212 16 18-11-2 18-7-8 2-5 6-4 3W
5 Pittsburgh 65 32 18 15 79 0.608 27 31 219 199 20 16-9-8 16-9-7 1-10 4-6 2L
6 NY Islanders 65 37 23 5 79 0.608 23 33 192 186 6 17-10-2 20-13-3 4-5 7-3 2W
7 Detroit 66 36 23 7 79 0.598 25 34 193 198 -5 18-11-3 18-12-4 2-3 4-6 2L
8 Boston 65 36 23 6 78 0.6 27 34 216 205 11 25-9-1 11-14-5 2-3 4-6 1L
9 Columbus 65 33 21 11 77 0.592 23 28 210 207 3 17-8-7 16-13-4 5-1 5-5 1L
10 Ottawa 64 32 23 9 73 0.57 26 29 216 201 15 14-11-5 18-12-4 3-0 6-4 1L
11 Philadelphia 65 31 23 11 73 0.562 20 23 190 203 -13 15-11-7 16-12-4 8-3 6-4 2W
12 Washington 67 33 27 7 73 0.545 28 32 210 200 10 20-11-3 13-16-4 1-5 5-5 1W
13 Florida 65 33 29 3 69 0.531 26 29 197 214 -17 18-14-3 15-15-0 4-1 5-5 3W
14 Toronto 66 28 27 11 67 0.508 20 27 209 233 -24 17-11-7 11-16-4 1-3 2-8 1W
15 New Jersey 65 32 31 2 66 0.508 21 28 170 197 -27 16-15-2 16-16-0 4-0 4-6 2L
16 NY Rangers 65 27 30 8 62 0.477 18 24 185 203 -18 9-15-6 18-15-2 3-0 5-5 3W
Western GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 64 44 11 9 97 0.758 39 41 246 160 86 23-5-4 21-6-5 3-5 8-2 1W
2 Dallas 65 41 14 10 92 0.708 33 37 229 176 53 21-7-4 20-7-6 4-4 9-1 3W
3 Minnesota 66 38 16 12 88 0.667 25 34 222 188 34 19-7-8 19-9-4 4-5 6-4 1L
4 Anaheim 65 36 26 3 75 0.577 21 28 219 228 -9 22-10-1 14-16-2 8-0 7-3 1L
5 Utah 66 34 26 6 74 0.561 26 34 205 184 21 18-10-3 16-16-3 0-0 5-5 3L
6 Vegas 66 30 22 14 74 0.561 22 29 216 209 7 15-10-7 15-12-7 1-6 4-6 1W
7 Edmonton 66 32 26 8 72 0.545 24 32 233 228 5 16-11-4 16-15-4 0-3 4-6 1L
8 San Jose 63 31 26 6 68 0.54 19 29 196 220 -24 17-10-5 14-16-1 2-1 4-6 1W
9 Seattle 64 29 26 9 67 0.523 23 28 180 195 -15 16-13-5 13-13-4 1-4 3-7 4L
10 LA Kings 64 26 23 15 67 0.523 16 22 169 192 -23 10-15-7 16-8-8 4-6 3-7 1L
11 Nashville 65 29 27 9 67 0.515 22 26 194 222 -28 17-13-3 12-14-6 3-1 3-7 1L
12 Winnipeg 64 26 28 10 62 0.484 21 25 182 199 -17 15-13-5 11-15-5 1-2 4-6 2L
13 St Louis 65 26 29 10 62 0.477 24 25 172 217 -45 14-12-7 12-17-3 1-3 6-4 1W
14 Chicago 65 25 29 11 61 0.469 18 22 175 209 -34 13-15-5 12-14-6 3-5 4-6 2W
15 Calgary 65 26 32 7 59 0.454 22 24 163 204 -41 16-12-4 10-20-3 2-3 4-6 1W
16 Vancouver 65 20 37 8 48 0.369 13 15 169 241 -72 7-20-5 13-17-3 5-2 2-8 1W
GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 64 44 11 9 97 0.758 39 41 246 160 86 23-5-4 21-6-5 3-5 8-2 1W
2 Dallas 65 41 14 10 92 0.708 33 37 229 176 53 21-7-4 20-7-6 4-4 9-1 3W
3 Carolina 65 41 18 6 88 0.677 30 36 230 190 40 24-9-2 17-9-4 5-3 7-3 1L
4 Minnesota 66 38 16 12 88 0.667 25 34 222 188 34 19-7-8 19-9-4 4-5 6-4 1L
5 Buffalo 66 40 20 6 86 0.652 34 37 232 198 34 21-9-3 19-11-3 3-0 8-2 1L
6 Tampa Bay 64 40 20 4 84 0.656 31 36 229 178 51 20-11-0 20-9-4 4-2 4-6 1W
7 Montreal 64 36 18 10 82 0.641 25 34 228 212 16 18-11-2 18-7-8 2-5 6-4 3W
8 Pittsburgh 65 32 18 15 79 0.608 27 31 219 199 20 16-9-8 16-9-7 1-10 4-6 2L
9 NY Islanders 65 37 23 5 79 0.608 23 33 192 186 6 17-10-2 20-13-3 4-5 7-3 2W
10 Detroit 66 36 23 7 79 0.598 25 34 193 198 -5 18-11-3 18-12-4 2-3 4-6 2L
11 Boston 65 36 23 6 78 0.6 27 34 216 205 11 25-9-1 11-14-5 2-3 4-6 1L
12 Columbus 65 33 21 11 77 0.592 23 28 210 207 3 17-8-7 16-13-4 5-1 5-5 1L
13 Anaheim 65 36 26 3 75 0.577 21 28 219 228 -9 22-10-1 14-16-2 8-0 7-3 1L
14 Utah 66 34 26 6 74 0.561 26 34 205 184 21 18-10-3 16-16-3 0-0 5-5 3L
15 Vegas 66 30 22 14 74 0.561 22 29 216 209 7 15-10-7 15-12-7 1-6 4-6 1W
16 Ottawa 64 32 23 9 73 0.57 26 29 216 201 15 14-11-5 18-12-4 3-0 6-4 1L
17 Philadelphia 65 31 23 11 73 0.562 20 23 190 203 -13 15-11-7 16-12-4 8-3 6-4 2W
18 Washington 67 33 27 7 73 0.545 28 32 210 200 10 20-11-3 13-16-4 1-5 5-5 1W
19 Edmonton 66 32 26 8 72 0.545 24 32 233 228 5 16-11-4 16-15-4 0-3 4-6 1L
20 Florida 65 33 29 3 69 0.531 26 29 197 214 -17 18-14-3 15-15-0 4-1 5-5 3W
21 San Jose 63 31 26 6 68 0.54 19 29 196 220 -24 17-10-5 14-16-1 2-1 4-6 1W
22 Seattle 64 29 26 9 67 0.523 23 28 180 195 -15 16-13-5 13-13-4 1-4 3-7 4L
23 LA Kings 64 26 23 15 67 0.523 16 22 169 192 -23 10-15-7 16-8-8 4-6 3-7 1L
24 Nashville 65 29 27 9 67 0.515 22 26 194 222 -28 17-13-3 12-14-6 3-1 3-7 1L
25 Toronto 66 28 27 11 67 0.508 20 27 209 233 -24 17-11-7 11-16-4 1-3 2-8 1W
26 New Jersey 65 32 31 2 66 0.508 21 28 170 197 -27 16-15-2 16-16-0 4-0 4-6 2L
27 Winnipeg 64 26 28 10 62 0.484 21 25 182 199 -17 15-13-5 11-15-5 1-2 4-6 2L
28 St Louis 65 26 29 10 62 0.477 24 25 172 217 -45 14-12-7 12-17-3 1-3 6-4 1W
29 NY Rangers 65 27 30 8 62 0.477 18 24 185 203 -18 9-15-6 18-15-2 3-0 5-5 3W
30 Chicago 65 25 29 11 61 0.469 18 22 175 209 -34 13-15-5 12-14-6 3-5 4-6 2W
31 Calgary 65 26 32 7 59 0.454 22 24 163 204 -41 16-12-4 10-20-3 2-3 4-6 1W
32 Vancouver 65 20 37 8 48 0.369 13 15 169 241 -72 7-20-5 13-17-3 5-2 2-8 1W