Detroit Red Wings

Ice Hockey NHL Enterprise Center Tue 28 Oct 19:15

St Louis Blues

  1. Prediction
  2. SGP Picks
  3. Correct Score
  4. Odds
  5. Team Stats
  6. Player Stats
  7. Player Props
  8. Team News
  9. Lineups
  10. Injuries
  11. Roster
  12. Standings

NHL Betting Preview: Red Wings vs Blues

The Detroit Red Wings meet the St Louis Blues in this NHL matchup at Enterprise Center, with face-off scheduled for 19:15 on Tuesday, October 28. Our betting preview features expert predictions, betting tips, the latest odds, H2H stats, player stats, team news and the starting lineups.

Bet on a Higher Total than the Line Suggests

We should take advantage of the -133 when it comes to the Red Wings and the Blues going Over 5.5. These odds look to be on the generous side.

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Red Wings 6-4 Winners in Last H2H Battle

Detroit Red Wings have lost their previous two on the road. Their most recent game was at home at Little Caesars Arena where they recorded a 6-4 victory over St Louis Blues. Simon Edvinsson scored 2 goals and was +1 in total.

St Louis Blues have suffered defeat in their last four games. Most recently, a 6-3 scoreline occurred on the road at PPG PAINTS Arena against Pittsburgh Penguins. Jordan Kyrou, Mathieu Joseph and Nick Bjugstad scored one goal apiece.

Head-to-Head Statistics

The last head-to-head saw the Red Wings claim a 6-4 win over the Blues at Little Caesars Arena. Each franchise has landed five wins in the previous 10 games between these teams.

Starting Goalies

John Gibson (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 22-11-2 2.6 .905 4
23/24 13-27-1 3.54 .888 0
Jordan Binnington (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 8-16-6 3.6 .866 1
23/24 28-21-5 2.84 .913 3
Detroit Red Wings – Last 10 Games

6 wins, 3 losses and 1 overtime loss, averaging 3.3 goals from 28.9 shots on goal, with a 20.0% powerplay efficiency. The Red Wings have been giving up 3.3 goals from 26.1 shots, averaging 3.1 penalties with a penalty-killing efficiency of 87.1%.

Dylan Larkin is the top points scorer with 13 points, 6 goals and 7 assists, with Alex DeBrincat recording 9 points, 2 goals and 7 assists, in the past 10 games. Goalie Cam Talbot have a 3.16 goal against average with a .877 save percentage.

St Louis Blues – Last 10 Games

The Blues have 3 wins, 5 losses and 2 overtime losses, averaging 3.0 goals from 26.3 shots on goal, with a 18.2% powerplay efficiency. They have been conceding 4.3 goals from 28.0 shots, averaging 3.2 penalties per game with a penalty-killing efficiency of 75.0%.

The top points scorer is Jordan Kyrou with 8 points, 4 goals and 4 assists, while Jake Neighbours is next in line after having 7 points, 6 goals and 1 assist. Goalie Jordan Binnington have a 2.99 GAA with a .883 SV%.

Detroit Red Wings vs St Louis Blues Prediction & Picks

Get the full betting picture for Detroit Red Wings vs St Louis Blues, including a key match prediction, our best correct score selection, top player prop picks and a ready-made bet builder.

Game Prediction

The odds of -133 look really attractive when it comes to back overs on the total line. We’re expecting the scoring to tick over in this NHL game.

Our expert NHL handicappers study recent form and take injuries into account when assessing each matchup. Before delivering a verdict, we combine that insight with the latest stats to strengthen our hockey analysis.

Key Red Wings vs Blues stats:

  • The 5.5 line has been covered in the last 4 Red Wings games.
  • The 5.5 line has been covered in 7 of the last 10 Red Wings games.
  • The 5.5 line has been covered in 12 of the last 20 Red Wings games.
  • The 5.5 line has been covered in the last 3 Blues games.
  • The 5.5 line has been covered in 15 of the last 20 Blues games.
  • The 5.5 line has been covered in 7 of the last 10 Blues games.

Over 5.5 Probability

Looking at the latest betting odds, there’s a 57.1% likelihood of our pick delivering a return. Taking all factors into consideration, our analysts think there’s a stronger chance of success and have a probability interval between 60-65%. This is why we can recommend this hockey wager.

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Player Prop Picks

Top Pick: Alex DeBrincat Over 2.5 Shots -175 BetMGM logo

Alex DeBrincat (Red Wings) has covered the 2.5 shots on goal total in 9 of the past 10 games. We’re anticipating that he is able to perform well and cover the line, with odds of -175 currently available.

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Same Game Parlay Picks

Totals Over 5.5
To Score Dylan Larkin
Shots on Goal Alex DeBrincat Over 2.5

We’ve got a same game parlay with three options: Over 5.5 goals, Dylan Larkin (Red Wings) to score and Alex DeBrincat (Red Wings) to register Over 2.5 shots.

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Correct Score Prediction

Detroit Red Wings vs St Louis Blues Odds

The odds and lines below are updated regularly and may differ from the prices shown in our picks, which are captured at the time of publication.

Books Expecting Close Encounter

If you want to bet on St Louis Blues, then Moneyline odds of -102 are on offer, although Detroit Red Wings are a -118 chance. The hosts have a 51% chance of victory in the eyes of the leading sportsbooks.

1.5 is where the puck line lies, with total goals being 5.5 right now. The Totals offers hockey bettors an alternative way of getting involved. If you fancy Over 5.5, this outcome can be backed at -132.

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Team Stats

Latest regular season and playoff games stats.

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings Stats
St Louis Blues logo St Louis Blues Stats
Moneyline
  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 3 wins and 7 defeats in the last 10 games on the road
Moneyline
  • 3 wins and 7 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 home games
Puck Line
Puck Line
Total Goals
Total Goals
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team News
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
71 Dylan Larkin 9 20.3 6 7 13 9
93 Alex DeBrincat 9 17.72 1 7 8 -1
58 Emmitt Finnie 9 16.24 4 4 8 7
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
63 Jake Neighbours 8 14.61 6 1 7 -4
25 Jordan Kyrou 9 17.59 3 4 7 -6
21 Jimmy Snuggerud 9 14.4 3 3 6 -1

Injuries & Suspensions

Detroit Red Wings Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Patrick Kane
Injured

St Louis Blues Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Torey Krug
Injured
Jake Neighbours
Injured
Robert Thomas
Injured

Starting Lineups

St Louis Blues logo St Louis Blues

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

50
Jordan Binnington
6
Philip Broberg
55
Colton Parayko
89
Pavel Buchnevich
10
Brayden Schenn
21
Jimmy Snuggerud
23
Lucas Raymond
71
Dylan Larkin
58
Emmitt Finnie
53
Moritz Seider
77
Simon Edvinsson
36
John Gibson

St Louis Blues logo St Louis Blues

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

50
Jordan Binnington
17
Cam Fowler
72
Justin Faulk
81
Dylan Holloway
22
Pius Suter
25
Jordan Kyrou
22
Mason Appleton
92
Marco Kasper
93
Alex DeBrincat
44
Axel Sandin Pellikka
8
Ben Chiarot
36
John Gibson

St Louis Blues logo St Louis Blues

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

50
Jordan Binnington
75
Tyler Tucker
23
Logan Mailloux
9
Alexandre Texier
70
Oskar Sundqvist
77
Nick Bjugstad
48
Jonatan Berggren
37
J.T. Compher
18
Andrew Copp
52
Travis Hamonic
20
Albert Johansson
36
John Gibson

St Louis Blues logo St Louis Blues

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

50
Jordan Binnington
13
Alexey Toropchenko
26
Nathan Walker
71
Mathieu Joseph
21
James van Riemsdyk
27
Michael Rasmussen
85
Elmer Soederblom
36
John Gibson

Previous Detroit Red Wings Lineups

25 Oct NHL
Blues 4-6 Red Wings
23 Oct NHL
Red Wings 2-7 Islanders
22 Oct NHL
Red Wings 2-4 Sabres
19 Oct NHL
Oilers 2-4 Red Wings
17 Oct NHL
Lightning 1-2 Red Wings
15 Oct NHL
Panthers 1-4 Red Wings
13 Oct NHL
Red Wings 3-2 Maple Leafs
11 Oct NHL
Maple Leafs 3-6 Red Wings
09 Oct NHL
Canadiens 5-1 Red Wings
17 Apr NHL
Red Wings 3-4 Maple Leafs

Previous St Louis Blues Lineups

27 Oct NHL
Blues 3-6 Penguins
25 Oct NHL
Blues 4-6 Red Wings
23 Oct NHL
Mammoth 7-4 Blues
21 Oct NHL
Kings 2-1 Blues
18 Oct NHL
Stars 1-3 Blues
15 Oct NHL
Blackhawks 8-3 Blues
13 Oct NHL
Blues 5-2 Canucks
11 Oct NHL
Blues 4-2 Flames
09 Oct NHL
Wild 5-0 Blues
04 May NHL Playoffs
Blues 3-4 Jets
NHL Standings Select Season
Metropolitan GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Carolina 55 34 15 6 74 0.673 24 30 191 160 31 20-8-2 14-7-4 4-3 6-4 1W
2 Pittsburgh 54 28 15 11 67 0.62 24 27 183 162 21 13-8-7 15-7-4 1-7 7-3 1L
3 NY Islanders 56 30 21 5 65 0.58 21 26 161 157 4 15-10-2 15-11-3 4-5 5-5 2L
4 Washington 57 28 22 7 63 0.553 23 27 183 171 12 16-10-3 12-12-4 1-5 4-6 3W
5 Columbus 54 27 20 7 61 0.565 18 22 172 177 -5 14-8-4 13-12-3 5-1 9-1 5W
6 Philadelphia 54 24 20 10 58 0.537 17 19 162 176 -14 12-9-6 12-11-4 5-3 2-8 4L
7 New Jersey 55 28 25 2 58 0.527 18 25 145 169 -24 13-10-2 15-15-0 3-0 6-4 1L
8 NY Rangers 56 22 28 6 50 0.446 14 20 151 178 -27 6-14-4 16-14-2 2-0 2-8 3L
East Atlantic GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Tampa Bay 53 35 14 4 74 0.698 27 31 189 136 53 16-9-0 19-5-4 4-2 8-2 3W
2 Detroit 57 33 18 6 72 0.632 23 31 173 171 2 18-10-2 15-8-4 2-3 5-5 1W
3 Montreal 56 31 17 8 70 0.625 20 29 194 186 8 16-11-1 15-6-7 2-4 5-5 1L
4 Buffalo 55 32 18 5 69 0.627 26 29 190 167 23 17-7-3 15-11-2 3-0 7-3 1W
5 Boston 56 32 20 4 68 0.607 24 30 191 177 14 21-8-1 11-12-3 2-2 7-3 1L
6 Ottawa 55 27 21 7 61 0.555 22 24 186 179 7 14-10-4 13-11-3 3-0 6-4 4W
7 Toronto 56 26 21 9 61 0.545 18 25 183 192 -9 16-9-6 10-12-3 1-1 3-7 2W
8 Florida 55 28 24 3 59 0.536 23 25 168 181 -13 14-13-3 14-11-0 3-1 4-6 4L
East Central GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 54 36 9 9 81 0.75 33 35 208 136 72 20-3-4 16-6-5 1-5 3-7 1L
2 Minnesota 57 33 14 10 76 0.667 21 29 190 164 26 17-6-7 16-8-3 4-3 7-3 4W
3 Dallas 56 33 14 9 75 0.67 27 29 188 156 32 15-7-3 18-7-6 4-3 6-4 5W
4 Utah 56 29 23 4 62 0.554 22 29 179 156 23 16-8-2 13-15-2 0-0 7-3 1W
5 Nashville 55 26 23 6 58 0.527 19 23 162 188 -26 15-12-2 11-11-4 3-0 5-5 2W
6 Chicago 56 22 25 9 53 0.473 17 19 154 181 -27 12-14-5 10-11-4 3-5 3-7 1W
7 Winnipeg 55 22 25 8 52 0.473 20 21 159 170 -11 12-10-5 10-15-3 1-2 4-6 1L
8 St Louis 56 20 27 9 49 0.438 19 19 143 198 -55 13-11-6 7-16-3 1-3 3-7 2L
West Pacific GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Vegas 55 25 16 14 64 0.582 18 24 182 176 6 12-8-7 13-8-7 1-6 3-7 5L
2 Edmonton 56 28 20 8 64 0.571 21 28 193 185 8 15-9-4 13-11-4 0-3 5-5 1L
3 Seattle 54 26 19 9 61 0.565 20 25 156 159 -3 14-9-5 12-10-4 1-4 5-5 4W
4 Anaheim 55 29 23 3 61 0.555 17 23 181 193 -12 16-8-1 13-15-2 6-0 8-2 1W
5 LA Kings 54 23 17 14 60 0.556 14 19 143 153 -10 8-10-7 15-7-7 4-6 4-6 1L
6 San Jose 54 27 23 4 58 0.537 16 25 169 189 -20 14-9-3 13-14-1 2-1 4-6 3L
7 Calgary 55 22 27 6 50 0.455 18 20 138 166 -28 14-10-4 8-17-2 2-2 3-7 1L
8 Vancouver 56 18 32 6 42 0.375 12 14 147 205 -58 6-17-4 12-15-2 4-2 2-8 2L
Eastern GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Tampa Bay 53 35 14 4 74 0.698 27 31 189 136 53 16-9-0 19-5-4 4-2 8-2 3W
2 Carolina 55 34 15 6 74 0.673 24 30 191 160 31 20-8-2 14-7-4 4-3 6-4 1W
3 Detroit 57 33 18 6 72 0.632 23 31 173 171 2 18-10-2 15-8-4 2-3 5-5 1W
4 Montreal 56 31 17 8 70 0.625 20 29 194 186 8 16-11-1 15-6-7 2-4 5-5 1L
5 Buffalo 55 32 18 5 69 0.627 26 29 190 167 23 17-7-3 15-11-2 3-0 7-3 1W
6 Boston 56 32 20 4 68 0.607 24 30 191 177 14 21-8-1 11-12-3 2-2 7-3 1L
7 Pittsburgh 54 28 15 11 67 0.62 24 27 183 162 21 13-8-7 15-7-4 1-7 7-3 1L
8 NY Islanders 56 30 21 5 65 0.58 21 26 161 157 4 15-10-2 15-11-3 4-5 5-5 2L
9 Washington 57 28 22 7 63 0.553 23 27 183 171 12 16-10-3 12-12-4 1-5 4-6 3W
10 Columbus 54 27 20 7 61 0.565 18 22 172 177 -5 14-8-4 13-12-3 5-1 9-1 5W
11 Ottawa 55 27 21 7 61 0.555 22 24 186 179 7 14-10-4 13-11-3 3-0 6-4 4W
12 Toronto 56 26 21 9 61 0.545 18 25 183 192 -9 16-9-6 10-12-3 1-1 3-7 2W
13 Florida 55 28 24 3 59 0.536 23 25 168 181 -13 14-13-3 14-11-0 3-1 4-6 4L
14 Philadelphia 54 24 20 10 58 0.537 17 19 162 176 -14 12-9-6 12-11-4 5-3 2-8 4L
15 New Jersey 55 28 25 2 58 0.527 18 25 145 169 -24 13-10-2 15-15-0 3-0 6-4 1L
16 NY Rangers 56 22 28 6 50 0.446 14 20 151 178 -27 6-14-4 16-14-2 2-0 2-8 3L
Western GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 54 36 9 9 81 0.75 33 35 208 136 72 20-3-4 16-6-5 1-5 3-7 1L
2 Minnesota 57 33 14 10 76 0.667 21 29 190 164 26 17-6-7 16-8-3 4-3 7-3 4W
3 Dallas 56 33 14 9 75 0.67 27 29 188 156 32 15-7-3 18-7-6 4-3 6-4 5W
4 Vegas 55 25 16 14 64 0.582 18 24 182 176 6 12-8-7 13-8-7 1-6 3-7 5L
5 Edmonton 56 28 20 8 64 0.571 21 28 193 185 8 15-9-4 13-11-4 0-3 5-5 1L
6 Utah 56 29 23 4 62 0.554 22 29 179 156 23 16-8-2 13-15-2 0-0 7-3 1W
7 Seattle 54 26 19 9 61 0.565 20 25 156 159 -3 14-9-5 12-10-4 1-4 5-5 4W
8 Anaheim 55 29 23 3 61 0.555 17 23 181 193 -12 16-8-1 13-15-2 6-0 8-2 1W
9 LA Kings 54 23 17 14 60 0.556 14 19 143 153 -10 8-10-7 15-7-7 4-6 4-6 1L
10 San Jose 54 27 23 4 58 0.537 16 25 169 189 -20 14-9-3 13-14-1 2-1 4-6 3L
11 Nashville 55 26 23 6 58 0.527 19 23 162 188 -26 15-12-2 11-11-4 3-0 5-5 2W
12 Chicago 56 22 25 9 53 0.473 17 19 154 181 -27 12-14-5 10-11-4 3-5 3-7 1W
13 Winnipeg 55 22 25 8 52 0.473 20 21 159 170 -11 12-10-5 10-15-3 1-2 4-6 1L
14 Calgary 55 22 27 6 50 0.455 18 20 138 166 -28 14-10-4 8-17-2 2-2 3-7 1L
15 St Louis 56 20 27 9 49 0.438 19 19 143 198 -55 13-11-6 7-16-3 1-3 3-7 2L
16 Vancouver 56 18 32 6 42 0.375 12 14 147 205 -58 6-17-4 12-15-2 4-2 2-8 2L
GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 54 36 9 9 81 0.75 33 35 208 136 72 20-3-4 16-6-5 1-5 3-7 1L
2 Minnesota 57 33 14 10 76 0.667 21 29 190 164 26 17-6-7 16-8-3 4-3 7-3 4W
3 Dallas 56 33 14 9 75 0.67 27 29 188 156 32 15-7-3 18-7-6 4-3 6-4 5W
4 Tampa Bay 53 35 14 4 74 0.698 27 31 189 136 53 16-9-0 19-5-4 4-2 8-2 3W
5 Carolina 55 34 15 6 74 0.673 24 30 191 160 31 20-8-2 14-7-4 4-3 6-4 1W
6 Detroit 57 33 18 6 72 0.632 23 31 173 171 2 18-10-2 15-8-4 2-3 5-5 1W
7 Montreal 56 31 17 8 70 0.625 20 29 194 186 8 16-11-1 15-6-7 2-4 5-5 1L
8 Buffalo 55 32 18 5 69 0.627 26 29 190 167 23 17-7-3 15-11-2 3-0 7-3 1W
9 Boston 56 32 20 4 68 0.607 24 30 191 177 14 21-8-1 11-12-3 2-2 7-3 1L
10 Pittsburgh 54 28 15 11 67 0.62 24 27 183 162 21 13-8-7 15-7-4 1-7 7-3 1L
11 NY Islanders 56 30 21 5 65 0.58 21 26 161 157 4 15-10-2 15-11-3 4-5 5-5 2L
12 Vegas 55 25 16 14 64 0.582 18 24 182 176 6 12-8-7 13-8-7 1-6 3-7 5L
13 Edmonton 56 28 20 8 64 0.571 21 28 193 185 8 15-9-4 13-11-4 0-3 5-5 1L
14 Washington 57 28 22 7 63 0.553 23 27 183 171 12 16-10-3 12-12-4 1-5 4-6 3W
15 Utah 56 29 23 4 62 0.554 22 29 179 156 23 16-8-2 13-15-2 0-0 7-3 1W
16 Seattle 54 26 19 9 61 0.565 20 25 156 159 -3 14-9-5 12-10-4 1-4 5-5 4W
17 Columbus 54 27 20 7 61 0.565 18 22 172 177 -5 14-8-4 13-12-3 5-1 9-1 5W
18 Ottawa 55 27 21 7 61 0.555 22 24 186 179 7 14-10-4 13-11-3 3-0 6-4 4W
19 Anaheim 55 29 23 3 61 0.555 17 23 181 193 -12 16-8-1 13-15-2 6-0 8-2 1W
20 Toronto 56 26 21 9 61 0.545 18 25 183 192 -9 16-9-6 10-12-3 1-1 3-7 2W
21 LA Kings 54 23 17 14 60 0.556 14 19 143 153 -10 8-10-7 15-7-7 4-6 4-6 1L
22 Florida 55 28 24 3 59 0.536 23 25 168 181 -13 14-13-3 14-11-0 3-1 4-6 4L
23 Philadelphia 54 24 20 10 58 0.537 17 19 162 176 -14 12-9-6 12-11-4 5-3 2-8 4L
24 San Jose 54 27 23 4 58 0.537 16 25 169 189 -20 14-9-3 13-14-1 2-1 4-6 3L
25 Nashville 55 26 23 6 58 0.527 19 23 162 188 -26 15-12-2 11-11-4 3-0 5-5 2W
26 New Jersey 55 28 25 2 58 0.527 18 25 145 169 -24 13-10-2 15-15-0 3-0 6-4 1L
27 Chicago 56 22 25 9 53 0.473 17 19 154 181 -27 12-14-5 10-11-4 3-5 3-7 1W
28 Winnipeg 55 22 25 8 52 0.473 20 21 159 170 -11 12-10-5 10-15-3 1-2 4-6 1L
29 Calgary 55 22 27 6 50 0.455 18 20 138 166 -28 14-10-4 8-17-2 2-2 3-7 1L
30 NY Rangers 56 22 28 6 50 0.446 14 20 151 178 -27 6-14-4 16-14-2 2-0 2-8 3L
31 St Louis 56 20 27 9 49 0.438 19 19 143 198 -55 13-11-6 7-16-3 1-3 3-7 2L
32 Vancouver 56 18 32 6 42 0.375 12 14 147 205 -58 6-17-4 12-15-2 4-2 2-8 2L