Seattle Kraken

Ice Hockey NHL Little Caesars Arena Tue 18 Nov 19:00

Detroit Red Wings

  1. Prediction
  2. SGP Picks
  3. Correct Score
  4. Odds
  5. Team Stats
  6. Player Stats
  7. Player Props
  8. Team News
  9. Lineups
  10. Injuries
  11. Roster
  12. Standings

NHL Betting Preview: Kraken vs Red Wings

The Seattle Kraken square off against the Detroit Red Wings at Little Caesars Arena, with face-off scheduled for 19:00 on Tuesday, November 18.

Red Wings Look a Great Bet

We’re keeping our prediction nice and simple by heading to the 3-Way Moneyline. Take the +104 that the Red Wings are able to secure a regulation time win when clashing with the Kraken.

Red Wings Claimed Shootout Win in Last H2H

Seattle Kraken have won their previous two games. The latest was a 4-1 home triumph at Climate Pledge Arena against San Jose Sharks. Jaden Schwartz bagged two goals, while Adam Larsson and Eeli Tolvanen scored once. Goalie Philipp Grubauer had an awesome game, keeping out 19 shots (1.000).

Detroit Red Wings won their last game 2-1. This was a road victory at Madison Square Garden against New York Rangers. Lucas Raymond and Alex DeBrincat each scored one goal. Goalie Cam Talbot made 18 saves (.947).

Head-to-Head Statistics

The Red Wings beat the Kraken when the teams last met. It was a 5-4 scoreline at Climate Pledge Arena. The Red Wings have triumphed in their previous three meetings against the Kraken. On the head-to-head front, it has been 4 wins out of 8.

Starting Goalies

Joey Daccord (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 19-18-6 2.9 .899 2
23/24 19-18-11 2.46 .916 3
Cam Talbot (Confirmed)
Season W-L-OTL: GAA: SV%: SO:
24/25 12-8-5 3 .892 0
23/24 27-20-4 2.5 .913 3
Seattle Kraken – Last 10 Games

5 wins, 2 losses and 3 overtime losses, averaging 2.7 goals from 23.6 shots on goal, with a 15.6% powerplay efficiency. The Kraken have given up 2.6 goals from 26.4 shots, averaging 3.3 penalties with a penalty-killing efficiency of 72.7%.

Eeli Tolvanen is the top points scorer with 8 points, 3 goals and 5 assists, with Matthew Beniers racking up 8 points, 1 goal and 7 assists, over the past 10 games. Goalie Joey Daccord have a 3.15 goal against average with a .885 save percentage.

Detroit Red Wings – Last 10 Games

The Red Wings have 5 wins, 4 losses and 1 overtime loss, averaging 2.6 goals from 31.5 shots on goal, with a 16.3% powerplay efficiency. They have conceded 3.1 goals from 26.5 shots, averaging 3.7 penalties per game with a penalty-killing efficiency of 83.8%.

The top points scorer is Lucas Raymond with 14 points, 3 goals and 11 assists, while Alex DeBrincat is next best after registering 13 points, 8 goals and 5 assists. Goalie John Gibson have a 3.20 GAA with a .881 SV%.

Seattle Kraken vs Detroit Red Wings Prediction & Picks

We’ve lined up expert Seattle Kraken vs Detroit Red Wings betting tips, from our match prediction and correct score call to player prop picks and best bet builder advice. Read on for the full breakdown.

Game Prediction

The +104 about Detroit Red Wings look really attractive when it comes to the 60-minute line. We think their opponents can be beaten in this NHL encounter, so this is our pick.

We use the latest team news and injury updates to help shape the best possible hockey picks. You’ll also notice we take a stats-led approach by factoring in the key NHL numbers that truly make a difference.

Key Kraken vs Red Wings stats:

  • Red Wings have won 6 of their last 10 games at home.
  • Red Wings have won 12 of their last 20 games at home.
  • Kraken have lost 7 of their last 10 games on the road.
  • Kraken have lost 12 of their last 20 games on the road.
  • Red Wings have won the last 3 games between these teams.

Red Wings 3-Way Moneyline Probability

Based on the odds from the best betting apps, our pick has a 49% chance of winning. In the opinion of our analysts, there’s actually a probability of success between 55-60%. It’s why we think it’s worth placing this hockey wager.

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Our Game Prediction
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Player Prop Picks

Top Pick: Dylan Larkin Over 2.5 Shots -164 BetMGM logo

Dylan Larkin (Red Wings) has had Over 2.5 shots on goal in 8 straight games. In our opinion, there is value when it comes to him covering the line, with betting odds of -164 now available.

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Same Game Parlay Picks

3-Way Moneyline Red Wings
To Score Alex DeBrincat
Shots on Goal Dylan Larkin Over 2.5

Get in the game with a same game parlay. Our picks are the Red Wings on the 60-minute line, Alex DeBrincat (Red Wings) to score and Dylan Larkin (Red Wings) to have Over 2.5 shots.

A same game parlay is a single event wager where you make predictions that are going to happen in a particular hockey game. Should a bettor get these selections correct, then they can achieve a good return from a small stake.

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Correct Score Prediction

Seattle Kraken vs Detroit Red Wings Odds

The odds and lines below are updated regularly and may differ from the prices shown in our picks, which are captured at the time of publication.

Red Wings Likely to Win According to Latest Odds

The sportsbooks have Detroit Red Wings at -175 when it comes to the Moneyline betting, implying the favorites are 64% likely to win this game according to the latest odds. For those wanting to back Seattle Kraken, you will find +146 about the underdogs.

1.5 is the puck line and 5.5 is the total goals line. A Totals wager is always available and can often provide value selections. If you're keen on Over 5.5, this selection is available at -115.

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Player Props & Micro Betting

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Team Stats

Latest regular season and playoff games stats.

Seattle Kraken logo Seattle Kraken Stats
Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings Stats
Moneyline
  • 5 wins and 5 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 3 wins and 7 defeats in the last 10 games on the road
Moneyline
  • 5 wins and 5 defeats in the last 10 games
  • 6 wins and 4 defeats in the last 10 home games
Puck Line
Puck Line
Total Goals
Total Goals
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team Stats - Avg/Game
Team News
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
17 Jaden Schwartz 18 17.42 7 7 14 8
7 Jordan Eberle 18 19.65 7 6 13 4
29 Vince Dunn 18 22.87 3 9 12 -3
# Player GP MIN G A P +/-
71 Dylan Larkin 19 20.53 11 12 23 7
93 Alex DeBrincat 19 17.74 9 12 21 -3
23 Lucas Raymond 17 17.92 5 15 20 4

Injuries & Suspensions

Seattle Kraken Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
Jared McCann
Injured
Kaapo Kakko
Injured
Matt Murray
Injured

Detroit Red Wings Injury Table

Type
Name
Info
No players are currently reported injured or suspended.

Starting Lineups

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

Seattle Kraken logo Seattle Kraken

39
Cam Talbot
77
Simon Edvinsson
53
Moritz Seider
93
Alex DeBrincat
71
Dylan Larkin
23
Lucas Raymond
7
Jordan Eberle
10
Matthew Beniers
27
Mason Marchment
6
Adam Larsson
29
Vince Dunn
35
Joey Daccord

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

Seattle Kraken logo Seattle Kraken

39
Cam Talbot
8
Ben Chiarot
44
Axel Sandin Pellikka
58
Emmitt Finnie
37
J.T. Compher
88
Patrick Kane
26
Ryan Winterton
9
Chandler Stephenson
17
Jaden Schwartz
62
Brandon Montour
55
Ryan Lindgren
35
Joey Daccord

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

Seattle Kraken logo Seattle Kraken

39
Cam Talbot
20
Albert Johansson
52
Travis Hamonic
92
Marco Kasper
29
Nate Danielson
22
Mason Appleton
51
Shane Wright
77
Berkly Catton
20
Eeli Tolvanen
24
Jamie Oleksiak
41
Ryker Evans
35
Joey Daccord

Detroit Red Wings logo Detroit Red Wings

Seattle Kraken logo Seattle Kraken

39
Cam Talbot
21
James van Riemsdyk
18
Andrew Copp
27
Michael Rasmussen
38
Jani Nyman
89
Frederick Gaudreau
12
Tye Kartye
35
Joey Daccord

Previous Seattle Kraken Lineups

15 Nov NHL
Sharks 1-4 Kraken
13 Nov NHL
Jets 3-5 Kraken
11 Nov NHL
Blue Jackets 2-1 Kraken
09 Nov NHL
Kraken 1-2 Stars
08 Nov NHL
Kraken 4-3 Blues
05 Nov NHL
Sharks 6-1 Kraken
03 Nov NHL
Blackhawks 1-3 Kraken
01 Nov NHL
Rangers 3-2 Kraken
28 Oct NHL
Canadiens 4-3 Kraken
25 Oct NHL
Oilers 2-3 Kraken

Previous Detroit Red Wings Lineups

16 Nov NHL
Red Wings 2-1 Rangers
15 Nov NHL
Sabres 5-4 Red Wings
13 Nov NHL
Ducks 3-6 Red Wings
09 Nov NHL
Blackhawks 5-1 Red Wings
07 Nov NHL
Rangers 4-1 Red Wings
04 Nov NHL
Red Wings 0-1 Golden Knights
02 Nov NHL
Red Wings 3-2 Sharks
31 Oct NHL
Red Wings 2-5 Ducks
30 Oct NHL
Red Wings 4-3 Kings
28 Oct NHL
Red Wings 5-2 Blues
NHL Standings Select Season
Metropolitan GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Carolina 74 47 21 6 100 0.676 34 42 263 218 45 26-10-2 21-11-4 5-3 6-4 1W
2 Pittsburgh 75 38 21 16 92 0.613 31 35 263 238 25 18-12-8 20-9-8 3-10 6-4 2W
3 NY Islanders 76 42 29 5 89 0.586 28 38 222 221 1 21-13-2 21-16-3 4-5 5-5 2L
4 Columbus 75 38 25 12 88 0.587 27 32 239 231 8 20-10-8 18-15-4 6-2 5-5 4L
5 Philadelphia 74 37 25 12 86 0.581 23 28 220 225 -5 17-12-8 20-13-4 9-4 7-3 1L
6 Washington 75 38 28 9 85 0.567 32 36 238 223 15 23-11-5 15-17-4 2-6 6-4 3W
7 New Jersey 74 38 34 2 78 0.527 26 34 205 227 -22 19-15-2 19-19-0 4-0 6-4 1L
8 NY Rangers 75 31 35 9 71 0.473 22 28 215 233 -18 12-18-7 19-17-2 3-1 4-6 3W
East Atlantic GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Buffalo 75 46 21 8 100 0.667 38 41 263 221 42 24-10-4 22-11-4 5-0 6-4 2W
2 Tampa Bay 74 46 22 6 98 0.662 37 42 268 207 61 23-13-1 23-9-5 4-2 6-4 1L
3 Montreal 74 43 21 10 96 0.649 31 41 262 234 28 22-13-2 21-8-8 2-5 7-3 6W
4 Boston 75 43 24 8 94 0.627 31 39 256 233 23 28-10-1 15-14-7 4-3 7-3 4W
5 Ottawa 74 38 26 10 86 0.581 32 35 247 230 17 18-11-6 20-15-4 3-1 6-4 3L
6 Detroit 74 39 27 8 86 0.581 28 37 216 223 -7 20-14-3 19-13-5 2-3 3-7 2L
7 Toronto 75 32 30 13 77 0.513 23 31 235 264 -29 18-12-8 14-18-5 1-4 5-5 1W
8 Florida 74 36 35 3 75 0.507 28 31 222 247 -25 20-15-3 16-20-0 5-1 4-6 1W
East Central GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 73 49 14 10 108 0.74 43 46 277 185 92 24-7-5 25-7-5 3-6 6-4 1W
2 Dallas 75 44 19 12 100 0.667 34 39 255 209 46 22-10-4 22-9-8 5-4 3-7 2L
3 Minnesota 74 41 21 12 94 0.635 26 37 242 216 26 20-10-8 21-11-4 4-5 4-6 1L
4 Utah 74 38 30 6 82 0.554 29 38 235 212 23 19-14-3 19-16-3 0-0 4-6 1W
5 Nashville 74 34 31 9 77 0.52 25 30 220 246 -26 20-15-3 14-16-6 4-1 5-5 3L
6 Winnipeg 74 32 30 12 76 0.514 25 30 213 228 -15 18-14-6 14-16-6 2-4 6-4 2W
7 St Louis 73 31 31 11 73 0.5 27 30 195 232 -37 18-12-7 13-19-4 1-4 6-4 1L
8 Chicago 75 27 34 14 68 0.453 20 24 195 248 -53 13-16-8 14-18-6 3-5 2-8 4L
West Pacific GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Anaheim 74 41 28 5 87 0.588 24 33 249 256 -7 23-10-3 18-18-2 8-0 5-5 2L
2 Edmonton 75 38 28 9 85 0.567 29 38 261 251 10 20-13-4 18-15-5 0-3 6-4 4W
3 Vegas 75 33 26 16 82 0.547 25 32 236 236 0 17-12-9 16-14-7 1-7 4-6 1W
4 LA Kings 73 29 26 18 76 0.521 19 25 195 222 -27 10-17-8 19-9-10 4-8 3-7 1L
5 San Jose 72 34 31 7 75 0.521 22 32 220 257 -37 18-12-5 16-19-2 2-1 4-6 2W
6 Seattle 73 32 30 11 75 0.514 25 31 206 227 -21 17-14-5 15-16-6 1-6 3-7 2L
7 Calgary 74 31 35 8 70 0.473 24 27 191 234 -43 21-12-5 10-23-3 4-3 6-4 1L
8 Vancouver 73 21 44 8 50 0.342 14 16 187 277 -90 8-25-5 13-19-3 5-2 2-8 6L
Eastern GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Carolina 74 47 21 6 100 0.676 34 42 263 218 45 26-10-2 21-11-4 5-3 6-4 1W
2 Buffalo 75 46 21 8 100 0.667 38 41 263 221 42 24-10-4 22-11-4 5-0 6-4 2W
3 Tampa Bay 74 46 22 6 98 0.662 37 42 268 207 61 23-13-1 23-9-5 4-2 6-4 1L
4 Montreal 74 43 21 10 96 0.649 31 41 262 234 28 22-13-2 21-8-8 2-5 7-3 6W
5 Boston 75 43 24 8 94 0.627 31 39 256 233 23 28-10-1 15-14-7 4-3 7-3 4W
6 Pittsburgh 75 38 21 16 92 0.613 31 35 263 238 25 18-12-8 20-9-8 3-10 6-4 2W
7 NY Islanders 76 42 29 5 89 0.586 28 38 222 221 1 21-13-2 21-16-3 4-5 5-5 2L
8 Columbus 75 38 25 12 88 0.587 27 32 239 231 8 20-10-8 18-15-4 6-2 5-5 4L
9 Ottawa 74 38 26 10 86 0.581 32 35 247 230 17 18-11-6 20-15-4 3-1 6-4 3L
10 Detroit 74 39 27 8 86 0.581 28 37 216 223 -7 20-14-3 19-13-5 2-3 3-7 2L
11 Philadelphia 74 37 25 12 86 0.581 23 28 220 225 -5 17-12-8 20-13-4 9-4 7-3 1L
12 Washington 75 38 28 9 85 0.567 32 36 238 223 15 23-11-5 15-17-4 2-6 6-4 3W
13 New Jersey 74 38 34 2 78 0.527 26 34 205 227 -22 19-15-2 19-19-0 4-0 6-4 1L
14 Toronto 75 32 30 13 77 0.513 23 31 235 264 -29 18-12-8 14-18-5 1-4 5-5 1W
15 Florida 74 36 35 3 75 0.507 28 31 222 247 -25 20-15-3 16-20-0 5-1 4-6 1W
16 NY Rangers 75 31 35 9 71 0.473 22 28 215 233 -18 12-18-7 19-17-2 3-1 4-6 3W
Western GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 73 49 14 10 108 0.74 43 46 277 185 92 24-7-5 25-7-5 3-6 6-4 1W
2 Dallas 75 44 19 12 100 0.667 34 39 255 209 46 22-10-4 22-9-8 5-4 3-7 2L
3 Minnesota 74 41 21 12 94 0.635 26 37 242 216 26 20-10-8 21-11-4 4-5 4-6 1L
4 Anaheim 74 41 28 5 87 0.588 24 33 249 256 -7 23-10-3 18-18-2 8-0 5-5 2L
5 Edmonton 75 38 28 9 85 0.567 29 38 261 251 10 20-13-4 18-15-5 0-3 6-4 4W
6 Utah 74 38 30 6 82 0.554 29 38 235 212 23 19-14-3 19-16-3 0-0 4-6 1W
7 Vegas 75 33 26 16 82 0.547 25 32 236 236 0 17-12-9 16-14-7 1-7 4-6 1W
8 Nashville 74 34 31 9 77 0.52 25 30 220 246 -26 20-15-3 14-16-6 4-1 5-5 3L
9 LA Kings 73 29 26 18 76 0.521 19 25 195 222 -27 10-17-8 19-9-10 4-8 3-7 1L
10 Winnipeg 74 32 30 12 76 0.514 25 30 213 228 -15 18-14-6 14-16-6 2-4 6-4 2W
11 San Jose 72 34 31 7 75 0.521 22 32 220 257 -37 18-12-5 16-19-2 2-1 4-6 2W
12 Seattle 73 32 30 11 75 0.514 25 31 206 227 -21 17-14-5 15-16-6 1-6 3-7 2L
13 St Louis 73 31 31 11 73 0.5 27 30 195 232 -37 18-12-7 13-19-4 1-4 6-4 1L
14 Calgary 74 31 35 8 70 0.473 24 27 191 234 -43 21-12-5 10-23-3 4-3 6-4 1L
15 Chicago 75 27 34 14 68 0.453 20 24 195 248 -53 13-16-8 14-18-6 3-5 2-8 4L
16 Vancouver 73 21 44 8 50 0.342 14 16 187 277 -90 8-25-5 13-19-3 5-2 2-8 6L
GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF Home Road S/O L10 Strk
1 Colorado 73 49 14 10 108 0.74 43 46 277 185 92 24-7-5 25-7-5 3-6 6-4 1W
2 Carolina 74 47 21 6 100 0.676 34 42 263 218 45 26-10-2 21-11-4 5-3 6-4 1W
3 Buffalo 75 46 21 8 100 0.667 38 41 263 221 42 24-10-4 22-11-4 5-0 6-4 2W
4 Dallas 75 44 19 12 100 0.667 34 39 255 209 46 22-10-4 22-9-8 5-4 3-7 2L
5 Tampa Bay 74 46 22 6 98 0.662 37 42 268 207 61 23-13-1 23-9-5 4-2 6-4 1L
6 Montreal 74 43 21 10 96 0.649 31 41 262 234 28 22-13-2 21-8-8 2-5 7-3 6W
7 Minnesota 74 41 21 12 94 0.635 26 37 242 216 26 20-10-8 21-11-4 4-5 4-6 1L
8 Boston 75 43 24 8 94 0.627 31 39 256 233 23 28-10-1 15-14-7 4-3 7-3 4W
9 Pittsburgh 75 38 21 16 92 0.613 31 35 263 238 25 18-12-8 20-9-8 3-10 6-4 2W
10 NY Islanders 76 42 29 5 89 0.586 28 38 222 221 1 21-13-2 21-16-3 4-5 5-5 2L
11 Columbus 75 38 25 12 88 0.587 27 32 239 231 8 20-10-8 18-15-4 6-2 5-5 4L
12 Anaheim 74 41 28 5 87 0.588 24 33 249 256 -7 23-10-3 18-18-2 8-0 5-5 2L
13 Ottawa 74 38 26 10 86 0.581 32 35 247 230 17 18-11-6 20-15-4 3-1 6-4 3L
14 Detroit 74 39 27 8 86 0.581 28 37 216 223 -7 20-14-3 19-13-5 2-3 3-7 2L
15 Philadelphia 74 37 25 12 86 0.581 23 28 220 225 -5 17-12-8 20-13-4 9-4 7-3 1L
16 Washington 75 38 28 9 85 0.567 32 36 238 223 15 23-11-5 15-17-4 2-6 6-4 3W
17 Edmonton 75 38 28 9 85 0.567 29 38 261 251 10 20-13-4 18-15-5 0-3 6-4 4W
18 Utah 74 38 30 6 82 0.554 29 38 235 212 23 19-14-3 19-16-3 0-0 4-6 1W
19 Vegas 75 33 26 16 82 0.547 25 32 236 236 0 17-12-9 16-14-7 1-7 4-6 1W
20 New Jersey 74 38 34 2 78 0.527 26 34 205 227 -22 19-15-2 19-19-0 4-0 6-4 1L
21 Nashville 74 34 31 9 77 0.52 25 30 220 246 -26 20-15-3 14-16-6 4-1 5-5 3L
22 Toronto 75 32 30 13 77 0.513 23 31 235 264 -29 18-12-8 14-18-5 1-4 5-5 1W
23 LA Kings 73 29 26 18 76 0.521 19 25 195 222 -27 10-17-8 19-9-10 4-8 3-7 1L
24 Winnipeg 74 32 30 12 76 0.514 25 30 213 228 -15 18-14-6 14-16-6 2-4 6-4 2W
25 San Jose 72 34 31 7 75 0.521 22 32 220 257 -37 18-12-5 16-19-2 2-1 4-6 2W
26 Seattle 73 32 30 11 75 0.514 25 31 206 227 -21 17-14-5 15-16-6 1-6 3-7 2L
27 Florida 74 36 35 3 75 0.507 28 31 222 247 -25 20-15-3 16-20-0 5-1 4-6 1W
28 St Louis 73 31 31 11 73 0.5 27 30 195 232 -37 18-12-7 13-19-4 1-4 6-4 1L
29 NY Rangers 75 31 35 9 71 0.473 22 28 215 233 -18 12-18-7 19-17-2 3-1 4-6 3W
30 Calgary 74 31 35 8 70 0.473 24 27 191 234 -43 21-12-5 10-23-3 4-3 6-4 1L
31 Chicago 75 27 34 14 68 0.453 20 24 195 248 -53 13-16-8 14-18-6 3-5 2-8 4L
32 Vancouver 73 21 44 8 50 0.342 14 16 187 277 -90 8-25-5 13-19-3 5-2 2-8 6L